Gimpy Blows His Cover- He Says He Wants to Humiliate and Condemn Homeopaths
If you’ve noticed, on this blog, I have been asking the bad science cult members what their true intentions are. The obfuscated ‘innocent’ response I get is that ‘we just want to debate this issue in the public domain’. I have responded that I could perceive a different motivation or intention. They responded no, we just want to be civil and have open debate.
Well on Goodscience blog “Gimpy”, the most vocal and prolific Bad Science cult member and writer, (he has his own blog) has shown his true intention:
In a discussion on philosophies of treatment and homeopathic treatment Gimpy blasted “… then fully expect to be criticised, humiliated and condemned. “
The claim that all the bad science cult members want to do is open, civil debate is, as I’ve said on this blog, disingenuous and bullshit. The real intention is to humiliate and condemn anyone who doesn’t hold their belief that science is the end all and beginning of the universe.
If it looks like an inquisition, it is an inquisition. Touting pure science, (especially the idea that it can only be my idea of what pure science is) above all else smacks of fundamentalism and religious zeal-a religion of intolerance and condemnation.
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Hi my post was in response to a commentator claiming to cure autism, aids, cancer and other diseases using homeopathy.
I see no threat in my post, just a simple statement of fact. If you make unbelievable claims for homeopathy and try and persuade people that it can cure incurable or serious diseases then I will not stand for it. You’ve read my blog. You know how I react to such claims. I have no hidden agenda. You know where I stand.
I would love to have a debate about the ethics of homeopathy and why people make such claims when the main homeopathic organisations, the SoH, the FoH, the ARH, NASH, etc specifically and categorically forbid such claims. If Marty (who made the claim) is a member of one of these societies then he is in breach of their Code of Ethics, if he is not a member then that is a further piece of evidence in support of statutory rather than voluntary regulation. Such claims are nonsense, demonstrable nonsense, dangerous nonsense.
I know where your response came from. Boy, you really are fanatically fixated on the Society of Homeopath’s Code of ethics aren’t you?
So here’s a response I’m sure I’ll get swarmed from other cult members about:
Why, as a consumer, would I not go to any practitioner with the expectation of a cure of my condition? Why should I not have the right to that expectation? Why should I not have the right to tell others that my condition was cured and let them decide whether its daft or not?
And, if I did not believe that all of medicine and healing should be arbitrated by the double blind study, why should I not have the right to say that and even to get others to join me in that belief? Even to get others to participate in a healing process that is not based on it? These questions are rhetorical and well, Gimpy you’ve already responded with the danger rhetoric and bad science cult answer.
You have amply made your point Gimpy that the consumer is an idiot and particularly the consumer of homeopathy and needs protection from homeopathy. You also imply the 515 million people who have malaria are well taken care of by the largess of the pharmaceutical industry, (a few thousand being treated with homeopathy is “dangerous”- oh my gosh).
But then again, hey,if its coming from a guy by the name of Gimpy we should all take the “danger” seriously.
The problem is that you have elevated your opinions to the shrill level of demagoguery, making theories about “danger” and “dangerous nonsense” without even a modicum of the proof that you want homeopathy to produce.
Your criticism of the Society is not out of an interest in improving homeopathy or the societies but only to destroy and hate it.
But Gimpy you are also backpedalling now.
On your webblog you condemn and humiliate even teachers of homeopathy who do not make those claims or use the word “cure” that you call unethical. Calling someone “delusional” I would say is a condemnation and humiliation.
You condemn anyone even discussing medicine and treatment or cure of a specific serious disease who is not either a member of your cult, a higher priest like a medical doctor or at least a convert to your rigid way of thinking.
And then there’s this bad science/pure science bit here- the cult line that you are part of. Ah yes, pure science- the double blind taken to its purest form was practiced by Josef Mengele on identical twins. He claimed he was doing it for the sake of “pure” science.
We won’t even talk about surgery as a non-double blind therapeutic experiential modality or the fact that you have completely marginalized nursing as a treatment modality.
You have a rigid belief that all spirituality, woo, faith in God to heal is evil. You condemn it and more than that fanatically fight against it. I call that cult thinking, the cult of baaad science.
Hey, did you think that the Frog-Whisperer thing was even a wee bit funny?
I have an observation FTCH, I am not sure others may agree, but it seems as if Gimpy is perseverating on “Codes of Ethics” what do you think that could mean……..scientifically??
Surely the point is: why does the SoH have a code of ethics if they have no intention of enforcing it? Why doesn’t the Society just scrap the bit in their rules about named diseases? It’s their rule-book, the Society wrote it, the Society decided to apply it to their membership – and then the Society decided to simply not apply it to their membership.
It really doesn’t matter that this is about homeopathy. Any organisation which announces that its members will abide by a rule and then ignores breaches of that rule makes itself look pointless. It’s like a nightclub having a dress code then letting people in wearing torn jeans and trainers while still maintaining that the club has a dress code.
I agree – a society, like a nightclub should keep the rules.
But what is your intention on being fixated on this and spending such a large portion of your life focused on this?
But what is your intention on being fixated on this and spending such a large portion of your life focused on this?
Because for a number of years the SoH have been arguing in the press and in parliament against statutory regulation and have constantly emphasised the virtues of their code of conduct and strict regulatory practice. This has been exposed as a sham. The SoH have been shown to be dishonest and incapable of serious regulation. They are the ones who brought up ethics and codes of conduct. We are arguing on their terms, not ours.
Oh, OK right-o then.
But why would you spend most of your life “arguing on their terms”?
Why do you feel that pointing out the inconsistancies in the SoH’s code of ethics / actual practices makes those inconsistancies irrelevant? Gimpy’s intention is to remind people about those inconsistancies, and not let them get swept under the carpet, which is what you seem to be doing. Your “yes, yes, alright, now stop going on about it” attitude does no-one any favours. You may as well be sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting “Lalalalaaa I’M NOT LISTENING!!!”.
I noticed that recent information about a wonderfully good outcome for using homeopathy in Cuba and preventing deaths and disease from Leptospirosis was dismissed by the quackometer guy as impossible because a homeopathy remedy is just water.
So much for anyone wanting to seriously see if homeopathy works or not.